{This blog is not affiliated with the VA. Though a Veteran, four yrs. all shore in Navy last year In-Country Vietnam, I don't work for the VA}
**USN All Shore '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In Country '70-'71 - Independent**

In 2003 some 72% of Americans fully supported the Abandoning of the Missions and those Sent to Accomplish so extremely Quickly after 9/11!!
At least some 95%, if not more as less then 1% serve them, not only still support the, just below, total lack of Sacrifice, they ran from any and all Accountability and left everything still on the table to be continually used if the political/military want was still in play in future executive/legislative wants!!
DeJa-Vu: “With no shared sacrifices being asked of civilians after Sept. 11", Decades and War From, All Over Again!!
Especially for the Corporate and Wealthy Community, investors in Defense Industries, and for these, Afghanistan and Iraq, came Two Huge Tax Cuts, with more sweetheart deals to same from states and the fed!!


Thousands of people across America don’t just talk about honoring Veterans; they walk the walk. Dedicated Volunteers Serve Veterans for Decades

On this Executive Administration, it's Cabinet and those directly around same, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer National Military Family Association - Dec. 30, 2011, and plenty more of similar since Joyce, others, spoke and continues!

Ask yourself: If the Veterans Administration is so corrupt and mismanaged, as the conservative ideology, under which the seeds of are planted when they control, wants everyone to buy into as they obstruct the budgets and do extremely little after they charge same, then why does the Private sector, many problems within rarely heard about, adopt so many practices and advanced technologies developed within the VA, for free?! The VA, DoD, and in partnership with Universities and Colleges, not just Health Care are constantly in R&D and that developed that works is quickly moved into the private, for profit, sector, even as the VA is long under funded, decades, and especially during and after our wars that the few are sent into!

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President Obama 26 August 2014

Fact: "This is not just a job of government. It’s not just a job of the veterans’ organizations. Every American needs to join us in taking care of those who've taken care of us. Because only 1 percent of Americans may be fighting our wars, but 100 percent of Americans benefit from that 1 percent. A hundred percent need to be supporting our troops. A hundred percent need to be supporting our veterans. A hundred percent need to be supporting our military families."

Fact:
"We’ve been able to accomplish historic increases to veterans funding. We’ve protected veterans health care from Washington politics with advanced appropriations. We’ve been able to make VA benefits available to more than 2 million veterans who didn't have them before, including more Vietnam vets who were exposed to Agent Orange. We’ve dedicated major new resources for mental health care. We’ve helped more than 1 million veterans and their families pursue their education under the Post-9/11 GI Bill."

August 26, 2014 - Secretary Robert A. McDonald's Remarks for the American Legion's 96th Annual Convention, Charlotte, NC
Fact: "Unlike, P&G, VA may not be concerned about quarterly profit and loss statements or shareholder value, but it does have a bottom line—Veterans. "
{which is why No Government agency should be turned into a private corporate entity feeding for profit off the Countries duty and responsibility, especially the VA}
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Fact: “We are dealing with veterans, not procedures—with their problems, not ours.” —General Omar Bradley, First Administrator of the Veterans Administration

Facts: Matthew Hoh {former Marine and foreign service officer in Afghanistan}: "We spend a trillion dollars a year on national security in this country."
"And when you add up to the Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, Veterans Affairs, interest on debt, the number that strikes me the most about how much we're committed financially to these wars and to our current policies is we have spent $250 billion already just on interest payments on the debt we've incurred for the Iraq and Afghan wars."
26 September 2014

Fact: "If military action is worth our troops’ blood, it should be worth our treasure, too — not just in the abstract, but in the form of a specific ante by every American." -Andrew Rosenthal 10 Feb. 2013

Fact: "12 years also is a long time. We now have a lifetime responsibility to a generation of service members, veterans and their families." Dr. Jonathan Woodson 11 Sep. 2013: With 9/11 Came Lifetime Responsibility
{two tax cuts, especially for the wealthy, came with these two recent unpaid for wars, nor the results of, DeJa-Vu all over again from the previous decades and wars from! Ignore the many issues, by those served, no need to fund!}

Fact: Sen. Bernie Sanders told Republicans: “If you can’t afford to take care of your veterans, than don’t go war. These people are bearing the brunt of what war is about, We have a moral obligation to support them.” February, 26th, 2014

Fact: 25 June 2014 U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller: Veterans' Affairs issue an 'all too similar' scene

Fact: How We Could Do More For Our Vets: "We need to go into debt to pay our debt to U.S. veterans to make sure they get the care and services we owe them."

Fact: “Why in 2009 were we still using paper?” VA Assistant Secretary Tommy Sowers “When we came in, there was no plan to change that; we’ve been operating on a six month wait for over a decade.” 27 March 2013

WHY? GOOD QUESTION THOSE SERVED SHOULD ANSWER!


Bob Herbert Losing Our Way : "And then the staggering costs of these wars, which are borne by the taxpayers. I mean, one of the things that was insane was that, as we're at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush administration cut taxes. This has never been done in American history. The idea of cutting taxes while you're going to war is just crazy. I mean, it's madness." Bill 'Moyers and Company': Restoring an America That Has Lost its Way 10 Oct. 2014

Presidential Proclamation -- Veterans Day, 2013: "As we pay tribute to our veterans, we are mindful that no ceremony or parade can fully repay that debt." read more>>>


Under two previous Executive administrations and wars from, father and son. With son and conservative congresses leading the extremely quick abandoning of the missions and those sent to accomplish after 9/11:

ProPublica and The Seattle Times Nov. 9, 2012 - Lost to History: Missing War Records Complicate Benefit Claims by Iraq, Afghanistan Veterans
"DeLara's case is part of a much larger problem that has plagued the U.S. military since the 1990 Gulf War: a failure to create and maintain the types of field records that have documented American conflicts since the Revolutionary War."

Part Two: A Son Lost in Iraq, but Where Is the Casualty Report?

Army Says War Records Gap Is Real, Launches Recovery Effort

3/27/15 - U.S. Nerve Gas Hit Our Own Troops in Iraq
"During and immediately after the first Gulf War, more than 200,000 of 700,000 U.S. troops sent to Iraq and Kuwait in January 1991 were exposed to nerve gas and other chemical agents. Though aware of this, the Department of Defense and CIA launched a campaign of lies and concocted a cover-up that continues today."
"When Brown and others tried to obtain their medical records to prove their illnesses were service-related, they learned that the records had disappeared."




Add in the issues of finally recognizing in War Theater and more Veterans, by the Shinseki Veterans Administration and the Executive Administrations Cabinet, what the Country choose to ignore from our previous decades and wars of: The devastating effects on Test Vets and from PTS, Agent Orange, Homelessness, more recent the Desert Storm troops Gulf War Illnesses, Gulf War Exposures with the very recent affects from In-Theater Burn Pits and oh so so much more! Tens of Thousands of Veterans' that have been long ignored and maligned by previous VA's and the whole Country and through their representatives!

How does a Country HONOR It's Fallen, by Their Own 'Sacrifice' in Taking Care of the Brothers and Sisters They Served With!!


"You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today." - Abraham Lincoln

"To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan" - President Lincoln

She wrote that she's proud of her service but added this: "That doesn't change the fact that I contributed - however indirectly - to human beings vanishing from the earth in a moment of sheer agony."



Homeless Veterans/Stand Downs

Are You Concerned About a Veteran? The Veterans Crisis Line Can Help>>>

For our sisters: National Women Veterans Hotline, call 1-855-VA-WOMEN1-855-VA-WOMEN (1-855-829-66361-855-829-6636) New Hotline now up and running

Wednesday, May 12, 2010

LZ (Landing Zone) Lambeau {UpDated}


Vietnam vets to gather for ‘welcome home’: Are they ready to forgive?

You’ve got to understand what it was like here at home during the Vietnam War. How rapidly society was changing. How deep and broad opposition to the war grew and how sharp the backlash was.

Soldiers returning from their time “in country” entered an altered landscape. The “Ballad of the Green Berets” was blown away by Jimi Hendrix’s “Star Spangled Banner” at Woodstock. Madras plaid button-downs bled into tie-dyed T-shirts. College students cut classes for anti-war protests, leaving a waft of marijuana smoke in their trail.

As protests spread and confrontations with police grew violent, some returning soldiers were met with taunts, and nobody postponed the revolution to welcome them home. Most often they were greeted with shrugs, veterans say today.

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Vietnam veteran Mike Woodards: “I hope we never again have a period in American history when veterans have to go through what they did in Vietnam.” Photo by Andy Manis

On May 21-23, Wisconsin Vietnam veterans are invited to gather at Lambeau Field in Green Bay for LZ (Landing Zone) Lambeau, what organizers are billing as a long-delayed “welcome home.” The event, sponsored by Wisconsin Public Television and state veterans agencies and organizations, began as a preview for a WPT documentary series on Vietnam veterans but has ballooned into a three-day affair with big names and big-time attractions. Packer great Bart Starr is set to appear, the traveling version of the powerful Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall will be erected, and military aircraft will fly over the staging ground.

Will the state’s Vietnam veterans accept the invitation?

Remembering the 'Peace Post'


During the Vietnam War, members of VFW Post 10203 in Madison voted to name it the 'Peace Post' -- and then they had their charter revoked. Mike Brenz, then the post commander, remembers. Click here to read the story..


Veterans joined the anti-war protests, or ignored them. Either way, they didn’t go around advertising their status as veterans. “If people were aware you were a veteran, you had to defend the war,” something no one had the stomach for back then. “Even if you believed in the war, no one wanted to defend it.”

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Vietnam veteran Odean Dorr, a former “tunnel rat” who searched underground for enemy supplies, now suffers from claustrophobia and a fear of crowds. He won’t be going to LZ Lambeau. Photo by Andy Manis

Meanwhile, the people at home — unless they had someone in Vietnam — were not called on to make sacrifices as they were in earlier wars. No rationing, no shortages. All people knew about the war was what they saw on the news, he says, and no one seemed to care much about the people in those news clips once they came home. “We absolutely didn’t get any recognition for anything we did,” says Steinhauer. “Most Vietnam veterans still feel left out. I don’t think it will ever go away.”

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Today, Brenz, 62, recalls that his “gung-ho” perspective on the war gradually changed in Vietnam. He tells the story of a horrifying reconnaissance mission where he was sent in to find the source of gunfire coming from a stand of trees where his unit had “blown away” the surrounding ground. “We pulled out a girl, couldn’t have been more than 15 or 16 with an AK, and a 10-year-old kid with his leg hanging by skin and tendon. I remember thinking, ‘Geez, my brother is this age.’”

His initial experience back stateside, in dress uniform at the Los Angeles airport, was friendly if unexpected. “Some guy came up to me and said ‘Welcome home,’ and shook my hand. I didn’t even know who he was.”

It was after he was back in Madison that Brenz’s problems started. “I didn’t know who I was, I didn’t fit in anywhere,” he says. Soon long-haired and bearded, Brenz found that other people tried to cast him in their ideas of what his role should be. One girl used to call him a “drug-crazed Vietnam vet” as a joke. Older people called him a “commie,” he recalls. Continued Here

Vietnam documentary on TV

Wisconsin Public Television and the Madison Public Library will offer a preview screening of “Wisconsin Vietnam War Stories,” a new WPT documentary, at 7 p.m. Wednesday, May 12, at the Madison Public Library, 201 W. Mifflin St.

A discussion will follow with the documentary makers, the author of a companion book and Vietnam veteran Doug Bradley.

The three-part documentary featuring stories of veterans’ experiences on the battlefield and coming home will air at 8 p.m. on May 24, 25 and 26.

UpDate:

An Overdue ‘Welcome Home’

14 May 2010 Watching a new documentary about Vietnam War veterans, I was surprised at how old they looked and how worn their faces had become. These were fellows who had once laughed and danced to the music of the Beatles and Motown.

I was also struck by how many of these men, now approaching retirement age in civilian life, broke down and began to weep as they told the stories about what it was like to be thrown at a tender age into the flaming sewer of combat.

It’s no longer widely understood — now that war is kept largely out of sight and out of mind — just how dreadful warfare is, and the profound effect it has on the participants and their loved ones.

John Dederich of De Pere, Wis., recalled stepping on a land mine in Vietnam and being blown high into the air. “My right leg went one way, and my left leg went the other way,” he said.

Roy Rogers of Menasha, Wis., also was badly wounded. “They couldn’t put me back together like Humpty Dumpty,” he said, managing a chuckle. “But they did the best they could.”

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Speaking of Vietnam, he said, “A lot of the vets tried to justify, rationalize for all the death and dying. But there is really no explanation to it. Figuring it out is a waste of time. It’s just another war that’s started by old men and fought by young boys.” Continued

40years later?

LZ Lambeau





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