{This blog is not affiliated with the VA. Though a Veteran, four yrs. all shore in Navy last year In-Country Vietnam, I don't work for the VA}
**USN All Shore '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In Country '70-'71 - Independent**

In 2003 some 72% of Americans fully supported the Abandoning of the Missions and those Sent to Accomplish so extremely Quickly after 9/11!!
At least some 95%, if not more as less then 1% serve them, not only still support the, just below, total lack of Sacrifice, they ran from any and all Accountability and left everything still on the table to be continually used if the political/military want was still in play in future executive/legislative wants!!
DeJa-Vu: “With no shared sacrifices being asked of civilians after Sept. 11", Decades and War From, All Over Again!!
Especially for the Corporate and Wealthy Community, investors in Defense Industries, and for these, Afghanistan and Iraq, came Two Huge Tax Cuts, with more sweetheart deals to same from states and the fed!!

Thousands of people across America don’t just talk about honoring Veterans; they walk the walk. Dedicated Volunteers Serve Veterans for Decades

On this Executive Administration, it's Cabinet and those directly around same, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer National Military Family Association - Dec. 30, 2011, and plenty more of similar since Joyce, others, spoke and continues!

Ask yourself: If the Veterans Administration is so corrupt and mismanaged, as the conservative ideology, under which the seeds of are planted when they control, wants everyone to buy into as they obstruct the budgets and do extremely little after they charge same, then why does the Private sector, many problems within rarely heard about, adopt so many practices and advanced technologies developed within the VA, for free?! The VA, DoD, and in partnership with Universities and Colleges, not just Health Care are constantly in R&D and that developed that works is quickly moved into the private, for profit, sector, even as the VA is long under funded, decades, and especially during and after our wars that the few are sent into!

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President Obama 26 August 2014

Fact: "This is not just a job of government. It’s not just a job of the veterans’ organizations. Every American needs to join us in taking care of those who've taken care of us. Because only 1 percent of Americans may be fighting our wars, but 100 percent of Americans benefit from that 1 percent. A hundred percent need to be supporting our troops. A hundred percent need to be supporting our veterans. A hundred percent need to be supporting our military families."

"We’ve been able to accomplish historic increases to veterans funding. We’ve protected veterans health care from Washington politics with advanced appropriations. We’ve been able to make VA benefits available to more than 2 million veterans who didn't have them before, including more Vietnam vets who were exposed to Agent Orange. We’ve dedicated major new resources for mental health care. We’ve helped more than 1 million veterans and their families pursue their education under the Post-9/11 GI Bill."

August 26, 2014 - Secretary Robert A. McDonald's Remarks for the American Legion's 96th Annual Convention, Charlotte, NC
Fact: "Unlike, P&G, VA may not be concerned about quarterly profit and loss statements or shareholder value, but it does have a bottom line—Veterans. "
{which is why No Government agency should be turned into a private corporate entity feeding for profit off the Countries duty and responsibility, especially the VA}
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Fact: “We are dealing with veterans, not procedures—with their problems, not ours.” —General Omar Bradley, First Administrator of the Veterans Administration

Facts: Matthew Hoh {former Marine and foreign service officer in Afghanistan}: "We spend a trillion dollars a year on national security in this country."
"And when you add up to the Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, Veterans Affairs, interest on debt, the number that strikes me the most about how much we're committed financially to these wars and to our current policies is we have spent $250 billion already just on interest payments on the debt we've incurred for the Iraq and Afghan wars."
26 September 2014

Fact: "If military action is worth our troops’ blood, it should be worth our treasure, too — not just in the abstract, but in the form of a specific ante by every American." -Andrew Rosenthal 10 Feb. 2013

Fact: "12 years also is a long time. We now have a lifetime responsibility to a generation of service members, veterans and their families." Dr. Jonathan Woodson 11 Sep. 2013: With 9/11 Came Lifetime Responsibility
{two tax cuts, especially for the wealthy, came with these two recent unpaid for wars, nor the results of, DeJa-Vu all over again from the previous decades and wars from! Ignore the many issues, by those served, no need to fund!}

Fact: Sen. Bernie Sanders told Republicans: “If you can’t afford to take care of your veterans, than don’t go war. These people are bearing the brunt of what war is about, We have a moral obligation to support them.” February, 26th, 2014

Fact: 25 June 2014 U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller: Veterans' Affairs issue an 'all too similar' scene

Fact: How We Could Do More For Our Vets: "We need to go into debt to pay our debt to U.S. veterans to make sure they get the care and services we owe them."

Fact: “Why in 2009 were we still using paper?” VA Assistant Secretary Tommy Sowers “When we came in, there was no plan to change that; we’ve been operating on a six month wait for over a decade.” 27 March 2013


Bob Herbert Losing Our Way : "And then the staggering costs of these wars, which are borne by the taxpayers. I mean, one of the things that was insane was that, as we're at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush administration cut taxes. This has never been done in American history. The idea of cutting taxes while you're going to war is just crazy. I mean, it's madness." Bill 'Moyers and Company': Restoring an America That Has Lost its Way 10 Oct. 2014

Presidential Proclamation -- Veterans Day, 2013: "As we pay tribute to our veterans, we are mindful that no ceremony or parade can fully repay that debt." read more>>>

Under two previous Executive administrations and wars from, father and son. With son and conservative congresses leading the extremely quick abandoning of the missions and those sent to accomplish after 9/11:

ProPublica and The Seattle Times Nov. 9, 2012 - Lost to History: Missing War Records Complicate Benefit Claims by Iraq, Afghanistan Veterans
"DeLara's case is part of a much larger problem that has plagued the U.S. military since the 1990 Gulf War: a failure to create and maintain the types of field records that have documented American conflicts since the Revolutionary War."

Part Two: A Son Lost in Iraq, but Where Is the Casualty Report?

Army Says War Records Gap Is Real, Launches Recovery Effort

3/27/15 - U.S. Nerve Gas Hit Our Own Troops in Iraq
"During and immediately after the first Gulf War, more than 200,000 of 700,000 U.S. troops sent to Iraq and Kuwait in January 1991 were exposed to nerve gas and other chemical agents. Though aware of this, the Department of Defense and CIA launched a campaign of lies and concocted a cover-up that continues today."
"When Brown and others tried to obtain their medical records to prove their illnesses were service-related, they learned that the records had disappeared."

Add in the issues of finally recognizing in War Theater and more Veterans, by the Shinseki Veterans Administration and the Executive Administrations Cabinet, what the Country choose to ignore from our previous decades and wars of: The devastating effects on Test Vets and from PTS, Agent Orange, Homelessness, more recent the Desert Storm troops Gulf War Illnesses, Gulf War Exposures with the very recent affects from In-Theater Burn Pits and oh so so much more! Tens of Thousands of Veterans' that have been long ignored and maligned by previous VA's and the whole Country and through their representatives!

How does a Country HONOR It's Fallen, by Their Own 'Sacrifice' in Taking Care of the Brothers and Sisters They Served With!!

"You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today." - Abraham Lincoln

"To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan" - President Lincoln

She wrote that she's proud of her service but added this: "That doesn't change the fact that I contributed - however indirectly - to human beings vanishing from the earth in a moment of sheer agony."

Homeless Veterans/Stand Downs

Are You Concerned About a Veteran? The Veterans Crisis Line Can Help>>>

For our sisters: National Women Veterans Hotline, call 1-855-VA-WOMEN1-855-VA-WOMEN (1-855-829-66361-855-829-6636) New Hotline now up and running

Wednesday, October 24, 2012

This is 'spitting' On The Troops!!

What a surprise. visited NBC to stream the Maddow show this morning.

What do I find, an actual MSM report about how a certain University of 'higher education', on their football game this past Saturday, celebrating 'Military Appreciation Day', feel about the present Commander in Chief of that Military their 'appreciating'.

You know the one that had two wars of choice dumped into his administrations lap along with tons of other problems while the previous walked into the sunset, rarely even mentioned, with no fear of accountability, and I'm sure those in and around along with many others wealthier from, from the country they led into.

In the NBC report they link back to this diary posted on Sunday by an alumnus of the halls of this University.

Clemson president scolds students, fans for booing Obama at football game

I'm not going to go into the 'spitting', used in the subject title. Except to say that from the time I returned from my last year of four in the USN, all shore duty, from in country Vietnam I've called it the 'nixonion verbal spitting' as that's exactly what was going on and by those who invented the greater majority of the so called 'actual spitting' on us Vietnam Veterans as we returned, that 'verbal spitting' pointed directly at us from the Huge movement within the ranks of the active and veterans of Vietnam around the world who weren't walking in support of that war of choice, including many vets of who invented incidents of that could quickly be debunked. Most Vietnam vets know exactly what was going on, as the country ignored us and the results of that war, PTS, Agent Orange and many other issues related to wars especially of choice, we were home they didn't want to take care of, DeJa-Vu all over again!

23 October 2012 - The president of Clemson University reprimanded the school's football fans Tuesday for booing President Barack Obama during a military ceremony last weekend, saying there is only one president, "and he is president of us all."

The display came as students were taking their oath upon being inducted into the university's Reserve Officer Training Corps on Military Appreciation Day during Clemson's 38-17 victory over Virginia Tech at Memorial Stadium in Clemson, S.C. The booing began as the members recited their pledge to "obey the orders of the president of the United States."

The booing, first reported Sunday by the Daily Kos, drew a mixed reaction on the Clemson sports message board TigerNet. One fan called the display "disgusting," adding, "We have actually dropped into the sewer," noting that the ceremony was intended to honor "military heroes and future defenders of our freedom."

But others defended the booing. One wrote: "Even the General who was administering the oath smiled at the booing. He knows the truth."


"Freedom of speech is a right which makes our country great," But he agreed that the booing was inappropriate because "this ceremony was a sacred moment to the recruits, their families, and many others in attendance." read more>>>

Thankfully, and understandably, some got what had happened, just like small groups around the country understand and organize to help military personal, their families and the veterans of the wars we send a tiny fraction of the population into, in these two present ones over and over and over for many. But just as understandably most don't and at a College Football Game to the fans not playing that's their 'wars' to cheer on, their 'battles' to not fight, some attend to cheer on wildly with some in the stands dressed as warriors in the school colors and more. Some just vegetate on an easy chair or couch and scream at the television, just like they cheer on wars and send others but they can't and won't attend as wars don't have bleachers and these are rarely mentioned on the televisions.

I took a cut of the Sunday diary, here, and posted it on my site about the despicable acts of these so called adults opening my post there with this:

Beyond Despicable, Total Lack of Acting Like Mature Responsible Young, and worse any older that participated in, Adults, examples for the generations behind them, and 'they' would call themselves the 'patriots', as they wrap themselves in the flag! All while we have one very long occupation of others ended and Soldiers Dying and getting Maimed in Multiple Tours still in the Occupation they Readily Abandoned, and the Missions of after 9/11, with their almost full support as the First Drum Beat pointed at Iraq was struck!!!!

And closed with this:

A question Clemson, questionable adult fans, were you booing the POTUS/CiC or a brave kid named Rodriguez, in this country today it's hard to tell where the tolerance is and the intolerance begins, on or off the sports fields, an Iraq War Purple Heart recipient? Either way you booed All Veterans but especially those of these two wars, long deadly occupations, of choice! So be proud of yourselves, you showed your true colors, those that did and those that didn't voice opposition to!

What made this extremely despicable was not only booing the POTUS/CiC, wars and the grown problems from that were just dumped into his lap, while we still have our Military fighting, dying and getting maimed in Afghanistan, the war missions and occupation of abandoned years back but that Clemson has a celebrated player on it's team. Celebrated because he's an Afghanistan and Iraq veteran Daniel Rodriguez - a Purple Heart winner and had been reported about throughout the country when he made the team.

From Sunday's diary this is what the day was about:

Veterans were supposed to stand while the band played their portion of the Armed Forces Medley. Fans were supposed to honor Rodriguez and the rest of the people who have fought so hard to protect this country.

Instead those at and those watching got to hear the booing when apparently it was taken up by many in the stands as it was loud enough to be heard. Not taking into consideration any family members who had lost someone in these wars, nor any veterans of these or our previous, I'll even bet some veterans partook, nor any veterans that were maimed, physically and or mentally that were in the stands or watching on the tube.

They post up the letter by the President of Clemson. But they do that after posting up some incidents of Presidents being booed especially at sporting events, apparently trying to soften this disgraceful show carried out by those who've never served nor would want their kids to while they cheer on wars, like these sporting events, but refuse to Sacrifice themselves, blatant over this past decade plus as tax cuts came with sending others into two wars of choice to return to a decades long underfunded Veterans Administration, often berated by the elected officials who's job it is is to fully fund especially when they rubber stamp war costs but seek to privatize instead.

Many would say that the previous administration was booed and more, even going so far that those that did were unpatriotic and not supporting the troops, and yet those were the ones who booed at this 'Military Appreciation Day' and find that 'patriotic'.

Protesting against the previous administration, booing and more, was done because of the known extremely failed policies that they carried out and most of the country fully supported. Abandoning the main missions of why the country sent the military into that region in the first place and invading and destroying another country. Causing a huge rise in hatreds, not just for our government policies but towards us all, thus causing this country to spend billions of the peoples treasury on so called enhanced homeland security to protect from the rise of those greater hatreds. Causing the loss of tens of thousands of lives, the lives of thousands of those serving and maiming of thousands of their brothers and sisters. Enhancing the wealth of many either directly or indirectly through the investments in the Defense Industrial Complex, no bid contracts and even the creation of a highly paid private army following no rules or laws and much much more, 'All Being Done In Our Names'!

All dumped into the Present Executive Administrations lap, as he as CiC leads the way those presently sent and serving in the theater want him to, not the officers but the soldiers and sailors, trying to accomplish what little they can of the original main missions and minimize the blowback from over a decade of wars. The only Government branch that have consistently, often going beyond the limits of like getting the private sector involved and more often then not with no press coverage, been doing for the soldiers their families and all veterans these past four years with the First and Second ladies starting that even before the nomination and oath of office were taken by the President and Vice President. And these 'adults?' boo the present while still not Demanding they Sacrifice to not only pay for their wars of choice but the long term results of!!

No Revenues {especially from the wealthy nor their private reagan capitalism economic investments, free market supply side capitalism} = No Sacrifice = No Support = Deja- Vu all over again!

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