{This blog is not affiliated with the VA. Though a Veteran, four yrs. all shore in Navy last year In-Country Vietnam, I don't work for the VA}
**USN All Shore '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In Country '70-'71 - Independent**

In 2003 some 72% of Americans fully supported the Abandoning of the Missions and those Sent to Accomplish so extremely Quickly after 9/11!!
At least some 95%, if not more as less then 1% serve them, not only still support the, just below, total lack of Sacrifice, they ran from any and all Accountability and left everything still on the table to be continually used if the political/military want was still in play in future executive/legislative wants!!
DeJa-Vu: “With no shared sacrifices being asked of civilians after Sept. 11", Decades and War From, All Over Again!!
Especially for the Corporate and Wealthy Community, investors in Defense Industries, and for these, Afghanistan and Iraq, came Two Huge Tax Cuts, with more sweetheart deals to same from states and the fed!!


Thousands of people across America don’t just talk about honoring Veterans; they walk the walk. Dedicated Volunteers Serve Veterans for Decades

On this Executive Administration, it's Cabinet and those directly around same, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer National Military Family Association - Dec. 30, 2011, and plenty more of similar since Joyce, others, spoke and continues!

Ask yourself: If the Veterans Administration is so corrupt and mismanaged, as the conservative ideology, under which the seeds of are planted when they control, wants everyone to buy into as they obstruct the budgets and do extremely little after they charge same, then why does the Private sector, many problems within rarely heard about, adopt so many practices and advanced technologies developed within the VA, for free?! The VA, DoD, and in partnership with Universities and Colleges, not just Health Care are constantly in R&D and that developed that works is quickly moved into the private, for profit, sector, even as the VA is long under funded, decades, and especially during and after our wars that the few are sent into!

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President Obama 26 August 2014

Fact: "This is not just a job of government. It’s not just a job of the veterans’ organizations. Every American needs to join us in taking care of those who've taken care of us. Because only 1 percent of Americans may be fighting our wars, but 100 percent of Americans benefit from that 1 percent. A hundred percent need to be supporting our troops. A hundred percent need to be supporting our veterans. A hundred percent need to be supporting our military families."

Fact:
"We’ve been able to accomplish historic increases to veterans funding. We’ve protected veterans health care from Washington politics with advanced appropriations. We’ve been able to make VA benefits available to more than 2 million veterans who didn't have them before, including more Vietnam vets who were exposed to Agent Orange. We’ve dedicated major new resources for mental health care. We’ve helped more than 1 million veterans and their families pursue their education under the Post-9/11 GI Bill."

August 26, 2014 - Secretary Robert A. McDonald's Remarks for the American Legion's 96th Annual Convention, Charlotte, NC
Fact: "Unlike, P&G, VA may not be concerned about quarterly profit and loss statements or shareholder value, but it does have a bottom line—Veterans. "
{which is why No Government agency should be turned into a private corporate entity feeding for profit off the Countries duty and responsibility, especially the VA}
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Fact: “We are dealing with veterans, not procedures—with their problems, not ours.” —General Omar Bradley, First Administrator of the Veterans Administration

Facts: Matthew Hoh {former Marine and foreign service officer in Afghanistan}: "We spend a trillion dollars a year on national security in this country."
"And when you add up to the Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, Veterans Affairs, interest on debt, the number that strikes me the most about how much we're committed financially to these wars and to our current policies is we have spent $250 billion already just on interest payments on the debt we've incurred for the Iraq and Afghan wars."
26 September 2014

Fact: "If military action is worth our troops’ blood, it should be worth our treasure, too — not just in the abstract, but in the form of a specific ante by every American." -Andrew Rosenthal 10 Feb. 2013

Fact: "12 years also is a long time. We now have a lifetime responsibility to a generation of service members, veterans and their families." Dr. Jonathan Woodson 11 Sep. 2013: With 9/11 Came Lifetime Responsibility
{two tax cuts, especially for the wealthy, came with these two recent unpaid for wars, nor the results of, DeJa-Vu all over again from the previous decades and wars from! Ignore the many issues, by those served, no need to fund!}

Fact: Sen. Bernie Sanders told Republicans: “If you can’t afford to take care of your veterans, than don’t go war. These people are bearing the brunt of what war is about, We have a moral obligation to support them.” February, 26th, 2014

Fact: 25 June 2014 U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller: Veterans' Affairs issue an 'all too similar' scene

Fact: How We Could Do More For Our Vets: "We need to go into debt to pay our debt to U.S. veterans to make sure they get the care and services we owe them."

Fact: “Why in 2009 were we still using paper?” VA Assistant Secretary Tommy Sowers “When we came in, there was no plan to change that; we’ve been operating on a six month wait for over a decade.” 27 March 2013

WHY? GOOD QUESTION THOSE SERVED SHOULD ANSWER!


Bob Herbert Losing Our Way : "And then the staggering costs of these wars, which are borne by the taxpayers. I mean, one of the things that was insane was that, as we're at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush administration cut taxes. This has never been done in American history. The idea of cutting taxes while you're going to war is just crazy. I mean, it's madness." Bill 'Moyers and Company': Restoring an America That Has Lost its Way 10 Oct. 2014

Presidential Proclamation -- Veterans Day, 2013: "As we pay tribute to our veterans, we are mindful that no ceremony or parade can fully repay that debt." read more>>>


Under two previous Executive administrations and wars from, father and son. With son and conservative congresses leading the extremely quick abandoning of the missions and those sent to accomplish after 9/11:

ProPublica and The Seattle Times Nov. 9, 2012 - Lost to History: Missing War Records Complicate Benefit Claims by Iraq, Afghanistan Veterans
"DeLara's case is part of a much larger problem that has plagued the U.S. military since the 1990 Gulf War: a failure to create and maintain the types of field records that have documented American conflicts since the Revolutionary War."

Part Two: A Son Lost in Iraq, but Where Is the Casualty Report?

Army Says War Records Gap Is Real, Launches Recovery Effort

3/27/15 - U.S. Nerve Gas Hit Our Own Troops in Iraq
"During and immediately after the first Gulf War, more than 200,000 of 700,000 U.S. troops sent to Iraq and Kuwait in January 1991 were exposed to nerve gas and other chemical agents. Though aware of this, the Department of Defense and CIA launched a campaign of lies and concocted a cover-up that continues today."
"When Brown and others tried to obtain their medical records to prove their illnesses were service-related, they learned that the records had disappeared."




Add in the issues of finally recognizing in War Theater and more Veterans, by the Shinseki Veterans Administration and the Executive Administrations Cabinet, what the Country choose to ignore from our previous decades and wars of: The devastating effects on Test Vets and from PTS, Agent Orange, Homelessness, more recent the Desert Storm troops Gulf War Illnesses, Gulf War Exposures with the very recent affects from In-Theater Burn Pits and oh so so much more! Tens of Thousands of Veterans' that have been long ignored and maligned by previous VA's and the whole Country and through their representatives!

How does a Country HONOR It's Fallen, by Their Own 'Sacrifice' in Taking Care of the Brothers and Sisters They Served With!!


"You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today." - Abraham Lincoln

"To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan" - President Lincoln

She wrote that she's proud of her service but added this: "That doesn't change the fact that I contributed - however indirectly - to human beings vanishing from the earth in a moment of sheer agony."



Homeless Veterans/Stand Downs

Are You Concerned About a Veteran? The Veterans Crisis Line Can Help>>>

For our sisters: National Women Veterans Hotline, call 1-855-VA-WOMEN1-855-VA-WOMEN (1-855-829-66361-855-829-6636) New Hotline now up and running

Thursday, July 1, 2010

Is glen beck "Grifting" in Using a Veterans Organization {UpDated}

The beck is having a get together with many of the grifters, a very patriotic? affair, on the so called right and those in this country easily feeding into their meme's, as they offer nothing of real policy or idea's but seem to really hate the country they and their's before them especially grew up in. I say their's before them because it was them who built the once middle class and helped everyone as well as the upper class and all investors etc. to prosper, up until some thirty years back when it all started changing and we're now living in the wake of the destruction.

In this get together he's blatantly stating that proceeds of will be donated to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation which seems to be embracing this gathering of grifters, none I'll bet are speaking for free, they just don't, unlike real grassroots rallies, they charge handsomely for their few minutes of 'talking points' or 'bumper sticker' quotes. There's a caveat as to this funding for the SOWF and is written out in the very small print well hidden at the bottom of the becks website page for the gathering of the patriotic? flag wavers.

Restoring Honor Rally

The purchase of Restoring Honor Rally merchandise is not a donation to SOWF, but all net proceeds from the sale of Restoring Honor Rally merchandise is being donated to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation. All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010. All contributions in excess of these costs will then be retained by the SOWF. Tax ID 52-1183585.

That first highlight means folks, You Can't Write Off The Costs You 'Contribute' As A Donation as you would in giving to a group helping others, a charity of need, if you were to want to. So you flag wavers and teabaggers attending please spend and spend, beck and company will get happier and happier with you!

Now notice the second highlight and read very carefully, like I said the speakers attending don't do so for Free and they get paid really handsomely for their fifteen or so minutes of empty talk while cutting down the country and it's long established once proud and envied history!

But there's more apparently the grifter beck DOESN'T HAVE A DC PARK PERMIT for his gathering of the 'second coming', yet, where he feeds the crowds gathered loaves of stale bread and rotten fish with those hidden smiles from him and the rest as they silently count the 'contributions' given all the way to the bank or off shore tax haven!!

This explains the above abit clearer:


It should be interesting to research out the public disclosures as to not only this gather, as to the IRS filings, but what this Veterans group will actually get that's left over, If Anything! And all those attending will have the responsibility of the contributions, if any, to this Veterans org.

We've had the reports of some well known Veterans orgs and how much those that lead them are paid and what actually gets to the recipients, the Veterans. We've, Veterans, have been following the news recently of a so called Veterans Group that seems to be nothing more then a Political Slush fund for Campaign Contributions with extremely little given to Veterans needs if anything at all.

Here's some recent news on that:

Attorney general: Group bilked Ohioans for $1.9 million

30 June 2010 Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray has filed suit against a national nonprofit that has collected $1.9 million in donations from Ohioans in the name of helping military veterans.

During a press conference near the Statehouse June 24, Cordray called the U.S. Navy Veterans Association "a phony outfit that is simply using the good name of our armed forces ... to cheat Ohioans and other patriotic Americans."

The state has requested temporary restraining orders to stop the Florida-based group from collecting donations in Ohio, with hopes of confiscating new donations for future return to donors.

With the action, Ohio joins a number of other states investigating the association and its activities. The issue came to light following an investigation by the St. Petersburg Times newspaper, which questioned whether the group was using donations to assist veterans or if some of the donations went instead to political candidates. Continued

U.S. Navy Vets director's political donations result in boon for Virginia charities

30 June 2010 The public exposure that has come to the U.S. Navy Veterans Association in Virginia after their founder Bobby Thompson made contributions to various elected officials has not worked out so well for the group. However, the group's loss has turned into various other charities' gain in the Commonwealth.

The group is now under investigation by the Virginia's Office of Consumer Affairs, which regulates charities. Two state delegates yesterday asked the governor to direct the Virginia State Police to investigate as well, though a spokeswoman for the department said no such inquiry has so far been opened.

After questions were raised about the group's activities--authorities have been unable to locate many of the officers and staffers listed on various official documents--several Virginia politicians who had received donations from Thompson pledged to contribute money in equal amounts to his donation to other charities.

We've now got a listing of who gave where.

Snip

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R) was the recipient of Thompson's most generous gifts--two checks totaling $55,500. After resisting, Cuccinelli has said he would put an equivalent amount in a restricted bank account and donate it to charity if Thompson is convicted of misappropriating the group's funds. Continued

Notice that last, the State Attorney General, part of that job is investigating corruption, has instead of donating the already tainted monies, which others have quickly done, will hold onto it, now notice the political party letter after the name!

More on this so called Veterans org as it first came out and other recent use of the Military and Veterans, suspected:

U.S. Navy Veterans Association. {If you visit that link be prepared, patriotic music, and looks like an real early style website produced by someone who is a lousy pitchman, or grifter, as it screams at you.}

Another scam charity by those who use our military personal and veterans for their own personal wealth and comfort? The cut and links below are the first of two reports on this charity{?} or extension of political PAC{!}. The second part and links follow that.

U.S. Navy Veterans Association: Under the radar

Is the U.S. Navy Veterans a helpful charity or an illusion? Try finding the leaders and following the money. -->-->-->

Part one

* Under the radar
Is the U.S. Navy Veterans a helpful charity or an illusion? Try finding the leaders and following the money.

* About the USNVA
Many names, many claims ... many dead ends.

* Letters: The U.S. Navy Veterans Association responds
Answering questions from the St. Petersburg Times, the group sent hundreds of pages of e-mails that veered into attacks on the reporter, the newspaper and the nonprofit that owns it, the Poynter Institute. Here are nine key responses. -->-->-->

Multimillion-dollar nonprofit charity for Navy veterans steeped in secrecy

Bobby Thompson, left, poses with Hillsborough County Sheriff David Gee, as Gee accepts a Navy Veterans Association donation to the Florida Sheriffs Youth Ranches. With them are association volunteers Blanca Contreras, left, and Karmika Rubin, since named special counsel.

Suppertime on a Sunday evening, a phone rings in suburban Tampa. Some 1,200 miles away, in a call center in Michigan, a cheerful telemarketer starts his pitch for a donation to the U.S. Navy Veterans Association.

Our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan need your help, he says. Any donation, even $20, would help pay for care packages.

He says the Navy Vets group has a long history. "They have a main office right there in Tampa. They really are on the up and up.''

How much of the donation gets to the Navy veterans, the homeowner asks, and how much goes to the telemarketer?

"That's a good question, I'm glad you asked. Hold the line and I'll get a supervisor.''

The supervisor says 20 percent goes to the charity. When the home­owner presses for more details, the line goes dead.

Other questions about the nonprofit went unanswered as well. In a six-month investigation, the St. Petersburg Times could find only one officer in the entire organization, and the nonprofit declined to reveal where its millions of dollars of income went. -->-->-->

Second part of this investigative journalist report:

Part two

* Money and politics
Bobby Thompson mixed his nonprofit with his personal politics, which are passionately held and backed with cash.

* Dear Sen. Miller
Les Miller says the charity's message was clear: Drop out of the Hillsborough County Commission race.

* 'News to me'
Records lead to a California professor and a phantom voter in Hillsborough County.

* Political contributions by Bobby C. Thompson (PDF)

* NAVPAC contributions (PDF)

* Letter to Les Miller (PDF)

Charity leader’s sideline: politics

The Ybor duplex: Thompson lived in the left side. The right side doubled as offices for the nonprofit Navy Veterans Association and for NAVPAC, a political action committee. After the Times started asking questions, the PAC shut down and Thompson cleared out. His landlord said he left no forwarding address.

It's an important rule of thumb for organizations the IRS has certified as tax-exempt nonprofits: They should be nonpartisan and refrain from interfering in political contests.

Bobby Thompson, the voice of the IRS-certified, nonprofit U.S. Navy Veterans Association, made clear he knows it: "It's simple,'' he said in an interview. "We do not make endorsements or political contributions."

But Thompson has mixed his nonprofit with his personal politics, which are passionately held and backed by cash.

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More than 10 years ago, Thompson helped organize U.S. Navy Veterans for Good Government, later called NAVPAC. That group contributed to dozens of politicians around the country.

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The Navy Veterans Association said Thompson has met personally with political figures from Tampa Mayor Pam Iorio to Gov. Charlie Crist to President George W. Bush. Two Christmases ago, he sent friends pictures of himself next to Bush.

A photo of Thompson with Iorio was tacked to the front of the unpretentious duplex in Ybor City where Thompson lived and worked. Half of the duplex was his home, the other half was an office that did double-duty for NAVPAC and for the Navy Veterans nonprofit. Thompson helped found both organizations. -->-->-->

Many names, many claims ... many dead ends

The roster at the U.S. Navy Veterans Association's Washington headquarters includes CEO Jack L. Nimitz, secretary Brian Reagan and compliance officer Patsy Mii. State officers include Saul Sena of Delaware, Gaither Longfellow of Alabama and, from Alaska, Bob "Boats" Rankles.

Their names are among the 85 included in documents the association filed with the IRS.

Is Nimitz a descendant of Adm. Chester W. Nimitz, commander of Allied forces in the Pacific during World War II? The Navy Veterans Association would not say and provided no help locating him or any of the other officers.

The St. Petersburg Times conducted hundreds of searches of directories, online public records databases and newspaper and broadcast stories going back more than 25 years. In six months searching, the Times could not find any of them. -->-->-->

And this from last year, found while looking for a few other links on the above:

Firm must halt its charity fraud

A telemarketing company has been tagged for deceptive fundraising practices

Community Support Inc. solicited contributions for numerous charities, including the U.S. Navy Veterans Association, the Association for Firefighters and Paramedics Inc., the American Foundation for Disabled Children and the Reserve Police Officers Association.

The telemarketing firm told residents that 100 percent of their donations would go to charitable programs, and the money would be used in Hawaii. In fact, 85 percent to 90 percent of the money collected went to the fundraisers themselves and none supported charities in Hawaii, according to the suit. -->-->-->

The directly above, with not only two occupations ongoing and soliciting for a Veterans Group but also following the attacks on 9/11 doing same as to a Firefighters and Paramedics group then a heart pulling for Disabled Children, tells much about the lengths some will go to not only enrich themselves, as well as networking for political connections looking to reap even more, but use the sacrifices and physical troubles of others, in this country, not caring at all nor having any compassion about those they use!

This is also what this countries economy has developed into, instead of using those highly touted 'free market' ideologies of pushing the money to the top thus supposedly creating a 'trickle down' of prosperity for All, it's collecting at the top, not creating or sustaining jobs nor growth, and much being directed towards political policy control by business and personal ideologies and not for the better of this country and it's citizens!

Add To The Above

The posts by angelajean on Beck as well as the very recent report Sean Hannity's charity alleged to be a scam - is anyone surprised?

Team up a carnival barker like Sean Hannity with an illegal arms merchant like Oliver North, give them a "charity" with a patriotic hook, and entrust them with your money - good plan, right?

When allegations came out this week - from another conservative, no less - that Hannity's charity didn't really meet what a person would consider a reputable level when it comes to how much they actually give, the first question might be - is anyone surprised? -->-->-->

And the long running pattern becomes clearer and clearer!! Though for many of us we've watched this over these decades and the growth of!

We all know what a so called political party already really thinks about those that serve, or at least those of us who served in Vietnam as well as recipients of, they had a real good time and allot of laughs over their funny!



Wonder if they've resupplied to sell for 'contributions' to the gather so they can 'donate', which will be a write off, what's left to the Veterans org. SOWF, after of course they once again have a Real Good time laughing and joking about!

UpDated:

"I Have A Scheme!"


"Continuing the Revisionist History for the coming times!" {wink, wink, reason I, like our brothers and sisters, have inserted supporting a veterans group as a show of my patriotism, wink, wink!}
The beckster


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